DeepSeek R1 The Open Reasoning Engine
That Teaches LLMs to Think
DeepSeek R1 is a reasoning-first language model trained with reinforcement learning to solve complex math, logic, and coding problems step-by-step instead of just guessing fluent answers. Released with MIT-licensed open weights and distilled sizes from 1.5B to 70B, it brings o1-style chain-of-thought performance to developers, researchers, and startups who want powerful, self-hostable AI for agents, tutors, and advanced copilots.
DeepSeek Models: A Practical Guide to V3, R1, Coder & More
If you’re hearing a lot about DeepSeek lately, it’s because they’ve gone from “interesting open model” to full model ecosystem: general LLMs, reasoning models, coding models, OCR, and multimodal.
This article gives you a structured, developer-friendly overview of the main DeepSeek model families, what they’re good at, and how to choose the right one for your stack.
1. DeepSeek model families at a glance
DeepSeek’s lineup is bigger than just “V3 vs R1”. On Hugging Face and their API docs you’ll find:
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DeepSeek-V3 / V3.1 / V3.2-Exp – general-purpose LLMs (chat, tools, long context)
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DeepSeek-R1 & R1-Distill – reasoning-first models (math, logic, complex code)
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DeepSeek-Coder V2 – coding-focused models (DevTools, IDE copilots)
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DeepSeek-OCR – 3B OCR / image-to-text model
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Janus-Pro / deepseek-vl – multimodal (image + text)
On the official platform these mostly surface as two API “personalities”:
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deepseek-chat– fast, direct responses (non-thinking mode) -
deepseek-reasoner– chain-of-thought reasoning (thinking mode)
2. DeepSeek-V3, V3.1 and V3.2-Exp – the general LLMs
2.1 Architecture & specs
DeepSeek-V3 is the flagship general model: a 671B-parameter Mixture-of-Experts LLM with about 37B parameters active per token, using Multi-Head Latent Attention (MLA) and a custom DeepSeek-MoE architecture to stay efficient.
Key points:
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Parameters: 671B total, ~37B active
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Context length: up to 128K tokens
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Training data: ~14.8T tokens across many domains
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Open weights: base and instruction models on Hugging Face
V3.1 builds on V3 with a dual-mode design: it can behave like V3 for fast, direct answers, or switch into an R1-style “thinking” mode for harder problems. That’s why some guides call V3.1 the most versatile DeepSeek model for real apps.
V3.2-Exp (2025) is an experimental evolution of V3.1-Terminus that introduces DeepSeek Sparse Attention (DSA) to make long-context training and inference cheaper and faster, with significantly lower API pricing on the hosted service.
2.2 Best use cases for V3 / V3.1 / V3.2-Exp
Use these as your default workhorse models when you need:
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Chatbots and support agents
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RAG over long documents (contracts, wikis, PDFs)
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Tool-calling / function-calling agents
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General content generation and light coding
Rough rule of thumb:
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V3 / V3.2-Exp non-thinking → fast, cheap, production chat & tools (
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V3.1 / V3.2-Exp thinking → agent flows that occasionally need deeper reasoning (
deepseek-reasoner)
3. DeepSeek-R1 & R1-Distill – the reasoning family
3.1 What R1 is
DeepSeek-R1 is a reasoning-first LLM trained heavily with reinforcement learning to maximize correctness on math, coding, and logic tasks. The team released:
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DeepSeek-R1-Zero – RL-only “cold start” model
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DeepSeek-R1 – full reasoning model
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Six distilled dense models based on Llama and Qwen backbones (1.5B → 70B)
R1 achieves performance comparable to OpenAI’s o1 across many math and reasoning benchmarks, while being dramatically cheaper to run according to both DeepSeek and independent commentators.
3.2 R1-Distill sizes
On Hugging Face you’ll see distills like:
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DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-1.5B / 7B / 14B / 32B
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DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B / 70B
These give you R1-style reasoning in much smaller, self-hostable models—popular in tools like Ollama and LM Studio.
3.3 Best use cases for R1
Reach for R1 / R1-Distill when you care more about getting the reasoning right than answering fast:
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Olympiad-style math, proofs, STEM tutoring
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Complex coding problems and debugging
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Multi-step planning and algorithmic tasks
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Research assistants that must compare evidence and explain why
On the DeepSeek API, this style of model shows up as deepseek-reasoner, which first generates chain-of-thought (CoT) internally before giving an answer. You can also access that CoT if you want to log or distill it.
4. DeepSeek-Coder – models for developers
DeepSeek also maintains dedicated coding models, notably DeepSeek-Coder V2 Lite (Base / Instruct) and earlier deepseek-coder-1.3B / 6.7B / 33B variants.
Typical capabilities:
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Code completion in multiple languages
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Generating and refactoring functions / modules
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Writing tests and explaining code
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Infrastructure as code (IaC), scripts, config generation
When to use them:
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If you’re building an IDE copilot or code review bot, DeepSeek-Coder is often a better primary model than V3, with R1-Distill optionally backing it for harder reasoning steps.
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For pure app logic and business chat, V3.x is usually enough.
5. Vision, OCR & multimodal models
DeepSeek’s ecosystem isn’t just text:
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DeepSeek-OCR (3B) – image-to-text / OCR model often wrapped into higher-level tools; very popular for scanning PDFs and screenshots.
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Janus-Pro-7B – “any-to-any” multimodal model (text–image);
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deepseek-vl-7b-chat – earlier vision-language chat model.
Use cases:
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Parsing invoices, forms, or scanned documents (DeepSeek-OCR)
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Image captioning and simple VQA (Janus / VL)
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Multimodal assistants that mix screenshot reasoning with text tools
6. How to choose the right DeepSeek model
Here’s a simple scenario-based mapping:
| Scenario | Recommended DeepSeek model(s) |
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| General chatbot / customer support | DeepSeek-V3.2-Exp (non-thinking) → deepseek-chat |
| Agent with tools & occasional hard tasks | V3.1 / V3.2-Exp with “thinking” for hard steps → deepseek-reasoner |
| Math tutor / contest problem solver | DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-14B or 32B, or hosted deepseek-reasoner |
| Code assistant, IDE copilot | DeepSeek-Coder V2 Lite, plus R1-Distill for tricky debugging |
| Long-document RAG over PDFs / wikis | DeepSeek-V3 / V3.1 / V3.2-Exp (128K context) |
| OCR / reading screenshots | DeepSeek-OCR 3B |
| On-prem, resource-limited environment | R1-Distill 1.5B / 7B or Coder smaller variants |
If you want, I can turn this into a JSON or table block for your Deepseek.EN site (e.g. “Model Picker” component).
7. Access, pricing and deployment options
7.1 Official DeepSeek platform
From the official site and API docs:
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Web & app chat – free tier access to V3.2-Exp; “thinking” and “non-thinking” modes.
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API –
deepseek-chatanddeepseek-reasonerendpoints (V3.2-Exp under the hood), 128K context with up to 4K–8K output (chat) or 32K–64K (reasoner). -
Recent updates cut V3.2-Exp API prices by 50%+ to stay highly competitive.
7.2 Open weights & third-party hosting
Most major models (V3-0324, V3.1, V3.2-Exp, R1, R1-Distill, Coder, OCR) are published on Hugging Face and GitHub under permissive licenses, often MIT.
That means you can:
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Run them locally (Ollama, LM Studio, text-generation-webui, vLLM)
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Host them in your own VPC or on GPU clouds
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Integrate them into existing inference platforms (TGI, vLLM, BentoML, etc.)
8. Safety, openness and governance
Two realities to keep in mind:
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Safety & jailbreaking: Security researchers have shown that DeepSeek’s hosted R1 models can be easier to jailbreak than some competitors, successfully bypassing guardrails in a wide range of tests. You should layer your own safety filters, monitoring, and policies on top.
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“Open source” vs open weights: DeepSeek’s models are widely praised for openness, but some analyses note that they don’t fully meet strict open-source transparency criteria (e.g., limited detail on RL stages and data provenance). This is a broader issue across many “open” LLMs, not just DeepSeek.
For sensitive or regulated environments, that usually means:
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Prefer self-hosting or trusted providers over the consumer app.
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Combine DeepSeek models with auditing, logging and evaluation tailored to your domain.
9. Takeaways
If you remember only a few things about DeepSeek models:
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V3 / V3.1 / V3.2-Exp are your general LLMs for chat, tools and long-context RAG.
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R1 & R1-Distill are your reasoning engines for math, logic and complex code.
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Coder, OCR and multimodal round out the stack for dev tools and vision tasks.
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Open weights + aggressive pricing make DeepSeek a core pillar in many modern multi-model AI stacks.
DeepSeek Models FAQs: Everything You Need to Know
1. What DeepSeek models are there, and what are they for?
Reddit threads and guides usually group DeepSeek’s lineup like this:
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DeepSeek-V3 / V3.1 / V3.2-Exp – general LLMs for chat, tools, RAG, coding.
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DeepSeek-R1 & R1-Distill – reasoning-first models for math, logic, complex code.
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DeepSeek-Coder (V2 & older) – code-centric models for IDE copilots & dev tools.
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DeepSeek-OCR (3B) – image-to-text / OCR.
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Multimodal (e.g. Janus / deepseek-vl) – text + image.
Most Reddit “model lists” link to the official Hugging Face repos for each family.
2. How do I choose between DeepSeek-V3.x and DeepSeek-R1?
This “V3 vs R1” question shows up constantly on r/LocalLLaMA and similar subs.
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Use V3 / V3.1 / V3.2-Exp if you want:
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General chat, support bots, RAG, tools
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Better stylistic writing and everyday coding
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Lower latency and cost for most tasks
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Use R1 / R1-Distill if you care about:
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Hard math, logic, proofs, algorithmic reasoning
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Deep code reasoning and debugging
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Multi-step planning and “explain your reasoning” behavior
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Reddit consensus: V3.x is the “default chat model”, R1 is the “bring in the heavy reasoning artillery.”
3. Which DeepSeek model should I install locally (Ollama / LM Studio) with limited VRAM?
Beginner posts with 8–24 GB VRAM get answers like:
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8–12 GB VRAM
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Try R1-Distill-Qwen-1.5B / 7B, older DeepSeek-Coder 1.3B / 6.7B, or quantized V2/V2.5.
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16 GB VRAM
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You can run R1-Distill-Qwen-14B or V3-based quantized models with Q4/Q5 GGUF.
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24 GB+ VRAM
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14B comfortably, and some 32B quantized builds if you’re careful with context size.
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Most replies say: start with the small R1-Distill or Coder models, confirm everything works, then move up in size.
4. How do I install and run DeepSeek models locally?
Threads on r/LocalLLM, r/LocalLLaMA, r/linux, r/homelab share roughly the same recipe:
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Download a model from Hugging Face (e.g.
deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3,DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-7B). -
Pick a runner: Ollama, LM Studio, text-generation-webui, vLLM, koboldcpp, etc.
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Load the GGUF or safetensors, set context (e.g. 8K–32K) and sampling parameters.
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Optional: plug it into LangChain / LlamaIndex for tools and RAG.
There are also step-by-step “How to run DeepSeek-R1 locally” tutorials linked from r/LocalLLM and r/LLMDevs.
5. Why do I get “ERROR 400 – (name) is not a valid model ID” when I try DeepSeek?
In the “A Deepseek FAQ” and related JanitorAI comments, people repeatedly hit a 400 error because they pass the wrong model ID string.
Reddit fixes:
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Use the exact model IDs your provider expects (e.g.
deepseek/deepseek-r1:free,deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3, or the vendor’s alias likedeepseek-chat). -
Double-check colons and slashes – typos like
deepseekv3ordeepseek-v3:freewhen the provider expects another name will fail. -
Some platforms (Chutes, JanitorAI, etc.) publish an official “supported models” list – use those names, not the raw Hugging Face repo name, unless docs say so.
6. Do DeepSeek models “phone home” when I run them locally?
This is a common concern in r/LocalLLaMA discussions: “Do DeepSeek models harvest and send data back to their servers?”
Reddit replies usually separate:
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Pure local / open weights (Hugging Face → ollama / LM Studio / vLLM)
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These are just model files. Unless your runner has telemetry enabled, the weights themselves don’t “call home.”
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Hosted APIs or remote frontends (DeepSeek website, proxies, third-party SaaS)
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Your prompts go through their servers; you must trust their privacy policy and jurisdiction.
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Hence, if privacy is critical, people recommend self-hosting in an isolated environment and disabling any optional analytics in your UI/tool.
7. Why are the free DeepSeek models suddenly slow or “unusable” on some services?
A widely shared post on r/SillyTavernAI complains that the free DeepSeek endpoints via certain proxies (like Chutes) became “completely unusable”: timeouts, errors, partial replies.
Reddit explanations include:
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Rate limits & popularity spikes – lots of users hitting free tiers at once.
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Upstream changes by DeepSeek or the proxy (model moves, quota reductions).
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Aggressive safety / filtering that cuts off responses.
The usual advice: either pay for a stable API, switch proxy provider, or run a local R1-Distill / V3 instance instead of relying on a shared free endpoint.
8. Why is DeepSeek-V3.2-Exp so cheap? Did they cut quality?
On r/LocalLLaMA and r/singularity, people ask why V3.2-Exp is so inexpensive and whether it’s “too good to be true.”
The answers point to:
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DeepSeek Sparse Attention (DSA) and other efficiency tricks that make attention almost linear in sequence length.
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A new “sparse” architecture that reduces compute per token and enables 50%+ API cost cuts while keeping performance close to V3.1.
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Heavy optimization for Chinese-native hardware (Huawei Ascend, Cambricon, etc.), which may reduce infra cost.
Some users do report slightly worse instruction-following vs older V3.x models (see next FAQ), but not a catastrophic quality drop.
9. Why is DeepSeek-V3.2-Exp bad at following instructions, and what can I do?
There’s a specific thread titled “Why is deepseek V3.2-Exp so bad at following instructions?” where users show prompt examples the model mishandles.
Common community tips:
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Be explicit and structured – use clear roles, bullet lists, and “Do / Don’t” sections.
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Lower temperature and increase top-p slightly, or vice versa, to stabilize outputs.
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For strict formats (JSON, code), wrap with:
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“Reply in valid JSON only, no prose.”
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Add examples and
format:sections.
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If instruction-following is critical, some redditors suggest sticking with V3.1 or pairing V3.2-Exp with a lightweight checker/fixer model.
10. What hardware do I need for DeepSeek-V3 and DeepSeek-R1 locally?
“Can I run DeepSeek on 16 GB RAM / my Mac mini / small GPU?” appears in multiple LocalLLM and LocalLLaMA threads.
Typical Reddit guidance:
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Laptop / small GPU (8–12 GB VRAM)
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Use R1-Distill 1.5B–7B or older DeepSeek-Coder; keep context smaller (4K–8K).
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Gaming PC / 16–24 GB VRAM
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R1-Distill-14B or similar sized V3 quant, with 8K–16K context.
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Workstation / multi-GPU
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32B or 70B distills, or even experimenting with sharded full-size V3.1, though most people use cloud for that.
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